Posts by Nathan Natas

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how do most of you now feel about the military?

by sowhatnow in

was not sure where to post this, but i was curious, how do some of you now feel about the military?

would any of you let your children enlist, or would you yourselves join any military field?

how do you feel about the idea of women in the military?

Nathan Natas

LoveUniHateExams confessed, "...I wouldn't enlist - I don't think I'm brave enough."

Don't make the mistake of thinking that everyone who serves is on the front line being RAMBO.

Although everyone does have to pass basic training and learn the fundamentals of war-fighting, think about all the SUPPORT that those guys on the front line need. SOMEBODY has to be "brave enough" to provide that support.

Are you "brave enough" to run around a track? "Brave enough" to do pushups and pullups? "Brave enough" to learn how to shoot? "Brave enough" to continue your education in a way University can't match? "Brave enough" to cook decent meals for your troops? "Brave enough" to repair a broken Humvee? If you are really sharp, you might be "brave enough" to translate enemy communications, or "brave enough" to be a drone operator sitting somewhere in Kansas.

I think you get my point... And in the unlikely (but possible) chance that your support position is overrun and you find the lives of yourself and your buddies at risk, you will find that you ARE "Brave enough"! Your training will kick in and you will fight for the lives of yourself and your team.

Remember that whether you are brave or not, there is an "expiration date" on your life, just as there is on mine. Be "brave enough" to live your life with pride.

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how do most of you now feel about the military?

by sowhatnow in

was not sure where to post this, but i was curious, how do some of you now feel about the military?

would any of you let your children enlist, or would you yourselves join any military field?

how do you feel about the idea of women in the military?

Nathan Natas

War is a terrible thing, but what viable option do freedom-loving men have against an oppressive government?

Years ago, when I was much younger and subject to the draft that could well have put me in Vietnam, I felt differently, having been thoroughly indoctrinated by the free home Bible Studies of the WTB&TS. I was a conscientious objector and earned a 4-D ministerial deferment.

My father and my uncles served in WWII. My dad was in Patton's Army, one Uncle was wounded on Iwo Jima and another was in the Caribbean. Another went around the world with the Navy and was among the first frogmen prepared for the invasion of Japan. Fat Boy saved his life.

Today I deeply regret not having served.

I think this sums up my feelings well:

IT IS THE SOLDIER

It is the Soldier, not the minister

Who has given us freedom of religion.

It is the Soldier, not the reporter

Who has given us freedom of the press.

It is the Soldier, not the poet

Who has given us freedom of speech.

It is the Soldier, not the campus organizer

Who has given us freedom to protest.

It is the Soldier, not the lawyer

Who has given us the right to a fair trial.

It is the Soldier, not the politician

Who has given us the right to vote.

It is the Soldier who salutes the flag,

Who serves beneath the flag,

And whose coffin is draped by the flag,

Who allows the protester to burn the flag.

As for women in the military, I can see how in the Air Force they may be able to fly with the best of the guys, but on the ground I think the woman who can really carry her own weight is rare.

Maybe we should see what a female-only division can do.

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Quality of JW teaching from elders

by sir82 in

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friends

there was a recent thread on the "quality" of converts to jws in recent years.

it wasn't a pretty picture, based on the thread contents.. well, the lack of depth isn't restricted to new converts.. in our clam this week, one of the principal points for review was this:.

ne 1:1; 2:1—why can we conclude that “the 20thyear” mentioned at nehemiah 1:1 and 2:1 is countedfrom the same starting point?

Nathan Natas

Magnum, that was excellent! ROTFLMAO!

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Witness Punk and Metal Band Names

by Luther bertrand in

here is what i would name my band(s) let see if you can list some funny ones as well.

here is my list:.

local needs.

Nathan Natas

To borrow from HBH,

Shame & the Nocturnal Emissions

The Tribes of Onan

The Dry Humpers

Twisted Sister: Elder's Wife

Franz & The Brown Slackers

Freddie & His Delusions

Bible-Based Bullshit

Jehovah Jehovah Jehovah!

Let Me Yah-way You Up

Brother Mature & The Back-Calls

Millions Now Living May Never

Greenlees & The Nut Sacks

Manna For Breakfast

Accidental Israel

Can't Rape The Willing (overheard at the Greenpoint Assembly Hall around 1970, spoken by a very horny teenaged sister)

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Preaching? For what purpose? All JW's need to ask this question.

by park ave boy in

what is the purpose of preaching if not for converts?.

basically, preaching by the jw's is to make converts.

this in itself implies that jehovah's witnesses believe that they alone have the only acceptable way to god and that everyone else is just not worthy.

Nathan Natas

Originally C. T. Russell felt his job was NOT to gain converts, but to gather the "Bride of Christ" out of the churches of Christendom.

I think it soon became apparent that with only 144,000 potential members this was a flawed business model that would not generate the cash-flow that CTR needed to support himself and the boys in his club, but it was Judge Rutherford who really got the Borg's business model going and the two-headed Knorr-Franz beast to fully optimize it.

Right now the Borg is in the process of decay as apostate mycelium works it's way through the memes.

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I gave the elders some ammo to use

by atacrossroads in

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friends

i was having dinner at olive garden with my cousin who was disfellowshipped for apostacy.

a holier than thou pioneer couple saw us.

if that was not enough i saw her take a picture of me with my cousin.

Nathan Natas

Get together with your cousin and pose for a picture with the two of you flippin' the bird. Send it to the pharisee who took your picture.

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Has a 'Christian' ever murdered somebody?

by goddidit in

a jw made the claim "no christian [jw] has ever murdered anyone".. when i showed examples of such, the goalposts moved a bit with "was he a baptized, dedicated witness?".

can anyone provide examples of murders committed by "baptized, dedicated" jws?.

thanks.

Nathan Natas

Christian (no pun intended) Longo murdered his wife and two kids.

see: http://www.biography.com/people/christian-longo

Jeff Anderson murdered Kim Anderson and her two children.

see: http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/religion/jw/jwmurders.shtml

Robert Bryant murdered his wife and children and then killed himself.

see: http://murderpedia.org/male.B/b/bryant-robert.htm

Jonathan Holt murdered Whitney Heichel.

Sheddrick Miller murdered Kia Miller and their two young children, then killed himself.

Ron Reynolds murdered Ronda Reynolds.

William Redman, a Jehovah's Witness, believed his daughter, Gloria, would be resurrected three days after he repeatedly plunged a knife into her neck at the family's trailer at Road Runner RV Park.

Drew Thompson murdered Rita Bartschot.

Curtis Thompson murdered Deborah Byars.

Larry Slack Sr. murdered his daughter Laree A. Slack.

yeah, hardly any.

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The pyramids and rutherford.......

by atomant in

lve been researching the early days of the jw"s and found some very damning information which needs to be discussed at length.according to my research it is claimed that early founders used the pyramids to work out important biblical dates that are now dates set in stone according to the beliefs of the sect and can not be changed as it would rock the very foundation upon which their beliefs are built.l was hoping for somone with a precise understanding to please elaborate whether this is true or not.

Nathan Natas

Available from LULU.com in ebook or hardcopy.

see: http://www.lulu.com/spotlight/oldlightreprints

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What is more important life or justice?

by Fisherman in

the outrage of injustice cries out for justice, vengeance, vindictiveness, retaliation, getting even -at any cost -even life.

Nathan Natas

Nature, red of tooth and claw, would answer "life."

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Do U Detest JWs.

by minimus in

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Nathan Natas

minimus challenged, "JWs are not terrible people. They are simply effed up. I don't get mad at them. I sympathize with them....how about u???"

For the most part I agree with you Min, ...but there is something pathological about people who protect pedophiles and shun the victims of pedophiles; people who gather in a hospital to urge their "friends" to refuse medical treatment for themselves and their children.

Their continual reliance on Jehovah has caused their spines to atrophy. They may SEEM nice, but they are a bunch of nice androids. They extend no empathy to the non-JW world that they judge worthy of destruction. They are like a cross between non-violent Quakers and fanatic Muslim terrorists - they won't kill you, but they will be GLAD when you are DEAD.

So I don't agree with you at all, Min. No offense...